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Post by Lunsfordium Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:17 am

cause, obviously, java pwns c++




with a chainsaw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Post by Admin Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:32 am

you need one? this is why books and google were created


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Post by Paul Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:00 am

were
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Post by Unchained Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:16 am

I can write one I guess but I must warn you that most of the time JAVA isn't the best solution.
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Post by Admin Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:43 am

Unchained wrote:I can write one I guess but I must warn you that most of the time JAVA isn't the best solution.
i hate that shit language. confusing bullshit designed for complete confusion
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Post by Unchained Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:13 am

Yea but web use is pretty easy. (I put it in my sig even but then it caused errors...)
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Post by Unchained Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:45 am

I don't think he really cares... I'll put it this way, java doesn't support keyboard input naively.
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Post by Lunsfordium Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:35 am

ok calm down

so what bout python or 1 of those othr languages that work on other os
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Post by Corey Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:38 am

Lol, Dr. SoBlue, I suggest instead of jumping between languages, you choose one and take some time to get moderately proficient in it. Then, if you don't like it, GOTO 10 and Try Again (Hehe Rhymes Smile )
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Post by Unchained Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:55 am

I would suggest that as well..
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Post by melanation Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:06 pm

Take what I'm doing for example Brad:
1) asked my "experts" in the family which language is more useful to know
2) picked one out of the list they gave
3) picked one of the books my "experts" had
4) started learning it
(btw the language in my case is C++)

I'm no programming expert, but my common-sense answer would be "YA CAN'T LEARN 10 LANGUAGES AT ONE TIME, pick the best, and lean that first, then move on to others"
Better to know one fluently, than bits and pieces of 10 of them. Right?
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Post by Paul Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:55 pm

Definitely, C++ is still probably my favorite language and java my second
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Post by Lunsfordium Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:21 am

ya cept niether fb, c++, or batch is going anywhere

so its not like its gonna matter in the slightest what parts i learn it just matters that i learn them

the club sucks at teaching
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Post by Admin Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:21 am

Dr. Soblue Landfry wrote:ya cept niether fb, c++, or batch is going anywhere

so its not like its gonna matter in the slightest what parts i learn it just matters that i learn them

the club sucks at teaching
you suck at learning, also we're not supposed to "teach", we're supposed to help out since teaching didn't work in the first place. There are 100,000+ tutorials out there, go find one, stick with it, try it.
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Post by Corey Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:18 am

Going anywhere? GOING ANYWHERE!?!?!? MAYBE YOU'RE NOT TAKING IT ANYWHERE! Hmmhmhmhmhmppfpfpf. -storms off-
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Post by Paul Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:32 pm

C++ is still the most commonly used programming language, last time I checked.
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Post by Unchained Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:50 am

At least for games and such but its definitely my preferred language.
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Post by Lunsfordium Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:25 am

yes and all of this is fine

i originally joined programming club so that i could

OMG

LEARN how to PROGRAM

buttttttt noooooooooooooooo

the club is so convoluted that we cant even decide important things without arguing.

we could get a different classroom, meeting time, and schedule so that we could have more time to learn

we could actually focus on one language until everyone learns it then have us all collaborate
instead of the people who are good at this talking with each other and showing off their programs that none the others are ever going to be able to write on their own

those who were lucky got it quick but the others are sitting there eating their lunch

then when one of us goes off and tries to learn another language that he might get far enough in to write a decent program, he learns a bit but is then given the cold shoulder when his teacher decides to go and show off his program to another smart person.

then he tries at another language
the person agrees to teach him
but then forgets all about it and gives him a program that he must download; without telling him what its for

thats why i wanted a java tutorial
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Post by Lunsfordium Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:39 am

and possibly a better club
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Post by Corey Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:54 am

Brad, the reason it's not like that is because no one is willing to learn. They spend all of meeting time causing distractions to others. *clears throat*
I'm not blaming you (there are quite a few), but perhaps if people actually tried to learn something instead of just using it as a lunch group, then they would get things done. There are plenty of online tutorials for most languages out there on the internet. Ask in person if you can't figure something out, though. I'm sure one of us will be happy to help. However, on-your-own-learning still remains an integral portion of learning languages. The reason that we "go and show off [our] program[s] to other smart [people]" is that we have nothing else to do; no one asks for programming related help, most of the time. All we can do relating to programming is show one another our code. Again, I'm not blaming you, but I think if the club as a whole were to at least make an attempt to Program in Programming Club, instead of wasting time doing nothing, then we would actually get a lot done. Just saying. And not to sound mean at all, I'm actually saying this for your sake, if you don't like the club, then leave. I don't want you to feel obligated to be part of something you don't enjoy. If, however, you actually would like to stay, again, feel free too. Whatever makes you happy~

Anyway, nice use of the word "convoluted." Smile
+5 exp in vocabulary Wink
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Post by Lunsfordium Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:14 am

i ask every day
you just dont hear
either that or brent steals my computer
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Post by Corey Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:19 am

He does that often. It's very annoying. Brent needs to actually do something instead of just showing us his drag-and-drop, cut-and-paste games every single time. He hasn't even attempted to learn any language.
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Post by Lunsfordium Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:52 am

except batch

i do need him to teach me that password file hider

he was supposed to put it on dropbox
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Post by Corey Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:54 am

Well, as useful batch is, I don't consider learning a few lines of it 'attempting to learn programming languages.'
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Post by Unchained Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:39 am

The club was originally envisioned as a meeting of people who already know how to program but that quickly changed because it honestly wasn't going to happen. I do agree that the club needs to be organized better but I would discourage you from quitting.

Heres what I'll do for you just because I'm such a nice guy, (and I'm thinking about advising) I will write you a basic JAVA tutorial (likely thurs-sat) and if you don't understand feel free to PM me. I know its not as good as in person but the school doesn't like me visiting and its impossible to gather you guys.

Batch is more of a scripting language than a programming language... I don't know why Brent wont learn a language or even come to the forum, would you guys work on him?

Your club needs to get organized, there are a lot of requirements (like minutes) you are supposed to follow (but aren't) so at this point you could potentially get shut down at any time.

P.S. Annie is learning LUA on her own. (as a stepping stone to C++)
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